It would be great. I believe in finding things that are said in the Bible, but this might need to be just not find. Both statements are asinine & not logical. Perspective at which we see things differ. Links below: An article explaining why the Genesis lifespans cannot be face value numbers is posted online: https://www.academia.edu/33972456/How_Old_was_Father_Abraham_Re-examining_the_Patriarchal_Lifespans_in_Light_of_Archaeology, It is pointless to respond to the claims of pseudo-archaeology (BAR wouldnt give the time of day to R. Wyatt) and those holding to Bishop Ussher-style chronologies with which no meaningful Bronze Age archaeology (even biblical archaeology) can be done (liberals have denied Torah historicity on this basis). Where Is the Original Siloam Pool from the Bible? Lot and his > family must walk at least one hour, at a minimum, to get out of harm?s way. The location would be more consistent with Dr. Collins view. Sodom and its sister cities are located in the large oval-shaped, fertile plain just north of the Dead Sea called simply ha-kikkar, or the Disk (Genesis 13, verse 13). Zoar was then a deep-water port on the Bay of Mazraa at the south end of the north basin. Photo: Michael C. Luddeni. If this is not the case, then the Madaba Map would have to be declared a geographical distortion unusable for cartographic purposes. 7. Dig into the illuminating world of the Bible with a BAS All-Access membership. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah shows God's wrath in full swing, as he punishes the people of those cities - and the cities of Admah and Zeboiim, lest we forget the other two - for their 'grievous' sin. Distance Between Zoar and Pretoria, Gauteng is : 1187 Km. Steven Collins responds to a letter by Bill Schlegel, Arguments Against Locating Sodom at Tall el-Hammam Isnt it best that BAR allows for a neutral site, allowing scholars to make their case? The truth, however, is that they may have disappeared much later than our translations suggest. Abram viewed the smoke from Hebron. would result in the cit ies' lineup as shown in g ure 3. BTW Bolen places the Patriarchs in the Early Bronze Age which few conservative archaeologist do. Analysis and Interpretation of Scripture 1. Both conceived and bore children. standing pillar of salt is a monument of an unbelieving soul. The traditional location of the place is at the south end of the Dead Sea. Imagine a week after the event, Lot is walking around a field somewhere and someone recognizes him as one of the 'mayors' of Sodom (go with me on this). rev2023.3.1.43269. I have been on the dig at Tall el Hammam four times to analyze the bones, and toured Israel and Jordan with TSWU two times. . Disagreeing is not an end all. Links to all the current blogposts, with a few other links, can be found here (02/26/13): Jeremiah 48:34 From the cry of Heshbon even to Elealeh, even to Jahaz have they uttered their voice, from Zoar even to Horonaim, to Eglath Shelishiyah: for the waters of Nimrim also shall become desolate. ; and further, it is written [ibid. As Neev and Emery state: As Zoar of the first century A.D. was a seaport, it had to be on the shore and must have been north of [the paved Roman road traversing the Lisan] or near the head of the Bay of Mazraa [at the south end of the north basin]. Alfonso Archi, Pettinato's successor as Ebla epigrapher, vigorously contested this. And it happened that in the days of Amraphel, the king of Shinar, . The separatists chose to name their town Zoar after the Biblical account of Lot, who escaped to Zoar from Sodom in the book of Genesis. They knew it was better to intercept their enemy and battle him at a distance rather than fight him on their doorstep. Magnesium is the stuff that makes some fireworks burn with intense white light and as it can reach temperature over 5000Fahreheit it has no difficulty melting rock and fusing it into the same glassy material found at atom bomb test sites. : Genesis 13, archaeology and Biblical geography provide new answers ? The time recorded for the fleeing by Lot and his family would then be critical for they would have to travel further than 25 km. Just as how God promised to spare Sodom but then destroyed it after Lot's family was removed, so according to tradition, he destroyed Zoar with the other cities of the plain after Lot left it. I also agree with Emerson and Randy (both 02/22/13) that as Christians one should never, ever, ever use BCE and CE. Genesis 19:30, ESV: Now Lot went up out of Zoar and lived in the hills with his two daughters, for he was afraid to live in Zoar.So he lived in a cave with his two daughters. Besides, you could make the same argument for other ancient sites that are recorded in ancient writings. The two foremost theories for the genesis of the Universe are chance and God, and since chance does NOT meet these requirements, and God does, then obviously God is the best possible explanation for the genesis of all things. Therefore, again, it isnt surprising to find out that several cities may have fallen to earthquakes. Genesis 20:1-2. Genesis 19:30 Lot went up out of Zoar, and lived in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he was afraid to live in Zoar. http://lmlk.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-kikkar-dialogues.html For those who are interested, I have read and written extensively on Tall el-Hammam versus what The Sacred Scriptures detail about Sodom and the other 4 Cities of the Kikkar. Molten lava fell on all of it. I have no doubt that two cities once existed by the names of Sodom and Gomorrah. The geographical basis of determining what is on the plain and what is not on the plain seems to be (pardon the pun) shaky ground. It often proves just the opposite of what wed like to believe. 9. Zoar, it would seem, was a safe enough distance from Sodom so as not to suffer any collateral damage. I say that to note that I have looked/studied the geography each time I was there. Other than Israel, no country has as many Biblical sites and associations as Jordan: Mount Nebo, from where Moses gazed at the Promised Land; Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John baptized Jesus; Lots Cave, where Lot and his daughters sought refuge after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah; and many more. Is Sodom related to Pompeii (present day- in Italy Rome)? To turn the local stone into this ash does need really hot fire and as the mass of semiburned nodules covering the ara analyses at 98% sulphur and 2% magnesium their origin was not of this world as sulphur deposit around the usual sulphur quarries and volcanoe or hot springs is only about 20-40% purity. January 11, 2013 by atozmom, posted in BSF Genesis 2012/2013. Gen. 13:18) towards Sodom (18:22), presumably eastward to the Dead Sea area of the Rift Valley. We can learn about the society where the ancient Israelites, and later Jesus and the Apostles, lived through the modern discoveries that provide us clues. As for the distance from Tall el-Hammam to Zoar at the confluence of the Arnon with the Dead Seait is 27 miles, not "over 40 miles" as Schlegel states. Why/why not? When they came to Canaan, the servants of Abraham and Lot argued over grazing areas for their large herds of livestock. . "Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar . It was several miles above the northern end of the Dead Sea, past Jericho. Thus, Lot had from dawn to dusk to travel from Sodom (Tall el-Hammam) to Zoar. The absence of any geographic indication for the [Lisan] peninsulas existence on the Madaba Map leads to a similar conclusion. The Word of Yahweh is now going out of spiritual Zion and Jerusalem (The Body of the Jewish Messiah) since CE 36 because of Micah 4:1-2 fulfilled already. There surely isnt a better alternative location for Sodom. The geographical argument for Tall el-Hammam being Sodom is a lock at every turn. Zoar was a city located at the southeast end of the Dead Sea. (Ref: Moses, Ref. Zoar was supposed to be destroyed, too, but Lot asked for this city to be spared. Thanks. Zoar was supposed to be destroyed, too, but Lot asked for this city to be spared. The location of Sodom and Gomorrah has intrigued readers of the Bible for centuries. Link here: He assumes that the large river representation on the map just north of Zoora (Zoar) is the Zered. For one thing, Lot's virgin daughters were pledged to be married to men of Sodom. Biblical Archa []. If Ushers dates are a correct interpretation of the meaning of the numbers in the text, then you place Abraham in a period of history in which Jerusalem/Salem did not exist, and the whole Melchizedek narrative falls apart. They were situated in the well-watered Jordan . Did Lot or the men of Sodom recognize Lot's visitors as angels? ~ Nathanael AmbassadorHerald Eisner. growing in their fruits, which fruits have a color as if they were fit Locating Sodom at Tall el-Hammam by Dr. Todd Bolen on his blog (08/23/14). I think BAR has moderated its position over the years, becoming less biased against Scripture and opening the door to work done by those who presuppose the veracity of Scripture. Tall el-Hamman is not Sodom and Collins and associates have made grave errors in their thinking and analysis. There has been some doubt about the exact location . 6. Trinity Southwest University 7600 Jefferson NE, Suite 28 Albuquerque, New Mexico 87109, USA (505) 332-4253 After his visit to the site in 2014. You can hear what he had to say here: Pt. Based on apparently where Abraham and Lot were located as they both viewed the well watered Jordan valley, they would have been viewing the north end of the Dead Sea. This provided a walkable shelf-like shoreline as a relatively easy route between the two. 8. it has been proven that Atlas was and is not physically holding the earth in its place and Helios does not transport the sun across the sky by chariot. This . However, it is the location of Zeboim that we found the most incredible. The territories of Moab and Edom (and the Ammon, for that matter) followed their wadi/river borders right into the Rift Valley. Press, 1995; pp. The Babylonian Talmud: Original Text, Edited, Corrected, Formulated, and Translated into English (Vol. Again, speaking from a purely geological point of view, plate tectonics explains the continental drift between the Asian and African shelves. Thanks for contributing an answer to Biblical Hermeneutics Stack Exchange! You can locate specific squares on each map by referring to the coordinates on the top and side of that map. Lot hesitated so the angels had to pull Lot and his family out of the city . Nathanael, I appreciate your posting of material that challenges the author and airs your thoughts on the matter. Even Bryant Wood places the Patriarchs in the Middle Bronze Age. The Crusaders mention "Segor" as situated in the midst of palm trees. Interestingly enough, it continues to grow taller at a rate . Those who dont recognize this simply reveal their ineptitude in dealing with textual geographical data. Then the LORD rained on Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur and fire from the LORD out of heaven. Genesis 19:23 The sun had risen on the earth when Lot came to Zoar. SODOM (modern Sedom) AND GOMORRAH. BAR July/Aug 2013, p. 10-11. Sodom and Gomorrah Destroyed - The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. The mountains of Sodom are located on the south-west side of the Dead Sea, rising 150-250m above it. 131-138. The Zered River, which drains into the southeastern part of the Dead Sea is depicted and clearly labeled on the Madaba Map. Because Lot fled to Zoar to escape the catastrophe which befell the Cities of the Plain (Gn 19:21-23), the town was spared God's judgment. Halfway Point Between Hebron, CT and Zoar, OH. Steven Collins responds to a letter by Bill Schlegel. Q&C: Geographically Puzzled. Collins responded to reader Shirley S. Reeds question on the location of Zoar. "It is written (say the Gemarists), 'The sun was risen upon the earth, when Lot entered into Sodom.'--Now Sodom was four miles from Zoar." For further reading and documentation, I highly recommend my detailed article answering Mr. Schlegel at tallelhammam.com under Related Publications.. Josephus says (BJ, IV, viii, 4) that the Dead Sea extended "as far as Zoar of Arabia," while in Ant, I, xi, 4, he states that the place was still called Zoar. We believe in Jesus, and assumedly have put our trust in Him, and try to follow Gods Pure Word. Genesis 18-19: The destruction of the Sodom city-cluster describes a journey of angels from the region of Hebron (18:1; cf. Yes, the ashen sites have been found scattered over a distance of 50 or more miles (80+ kilometers). What are some tools or methods I can purchase to trace a water leak? Biblical explanations of Sodom and Gomorah is a pure reality and true. Oh yea, we are going to have tourists come and see where evil people were, vaped, for their sins. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. Link to first part below, scroll down to read further: For example, if one claims that a gun does NOT exist in their pocket, it is quite easy to prove that this negative assertion is true or false, simply by visually examining the inside of the pocket. Birch that the place is represented by the present Tell Shaghur, a white rocky mound at the foot of the Moab Mountains, a mile East of Beth-haram (Tell er-Rameh), 7 miles Northeast of the mouth of the Jordan, a locality remarkable for its stone monuments and well-supplied springs, but he acknowledges that the name is more like the Christian Segor than the original Zoar.George Frederick Wright. In the July/August 2013 issue, Collins responded to reader Shirley S. Reeds question on the location of Zoar. But if one has his mind The mid-air explosion, referred to as an airburst, would have not only have been bright but would have initiated a 2000+ deg C shock wave and given the soil content would have spread salt to nearly at 25 km radius. (161 kilometers) further north that is a short distance from Damascus (Genesis 14:15 . All agree that Sodom existed in the Early Bronze age (Gen 10) the Question of importance is when was it destroyed (Middle Bronze Age Gen 13). Abraham could not have battled in the dead sea, but in a valley.God over turned the cities Gen.19:29. They wanted to gang-rape the two male angels. Then, when asked for evidence of their assertion, they will either claim that, a) the burden of proof is not on them, but on those who claim the account is true, and/or, b) you cant prove a negative. Im sorry, but when you attack the content of a persons character rather than the contact of their argument, you disqualify yourself as a critic. Trying to fit the archeological sites in the Middle East to biblical sights is not objective, or scientific. In the article Where Is Sodom? in the March/April 2013 issue of BAR, archaeologist Steven Collins combines clues from Biblical geography with archaeological evidence from the site of Tall el-Hammam in Jordan to suggest that the author of Genesis 13 located Sodom in a fertile area northeast of the Dead Sea. The rulers who dare throw off Chedorlaomer's yoke are led by the king of Sodom whose allies are the kings of Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboim and Zoar (Genesis 14:2). The sun had risen on the earth when Lot came to Zoar. A fault line runs right through the Dead Sea. Required fields are marked *, COPYRIGHT 2023 BIBLICAL ARCHAEOLOGY SOCIETY 5614 Connecticut Ave NW #343, Washington DC 20015-2604. Is that a possible location for the sinful cities of the plains? Since the Universe with all its matter & energy could not have just popped into existence without a cause, the cause logically exists OUTSIDE the known Universe, making this cause transcendent from the Universe, existing outside time, space, matter and energy. And here is the Wisdom of Solomon, 10.6-7: When the ungodly perished, she delivered the righteous man, who fled Eusebius (Onomasticon, 261) locates the Dead Sea between Jericho and Zoar, and speaks of the remnants of the ancient fertility as still visible. Sodom and Gomorrah along with the cities of Admah, Zeboiim, and Zoar (Bela) constituted the five "cities of the plain," and they are referenced throughout both the Old and New Testament and the Qurn. Instead its kind of presupposing something that cannot possibly be verified unless there is some kind of written script being discovered at the site that indicates the definite provenance of the dig. But unlike other Canaanite cities that continued to flourish in the Late Bronze Age (1550-1200 B.C.E. Its an absolute fact that the Madaba Map features only the deep north basin of the Dead Sea. In the article Where Is Sodom? in the March/April 2013 issue of BAR, archaeologist Steven Collins combines clues from Biblical geography with archaeological evidence from the site of Tall el-Hammam in Jordan to suggest that the author of Genesis 13 located Sodom in a fertile area northeast of the Dead Sea. . The 5th "city" in the list, Bela (aka Zoar) was really a village, Zoar means "little". (Trans.). So,since negative assertions CAN be proven, their claimants can therefore be held accountable to prove their assertion or (if they fail to prove it), admit that their assertion is one that they believe by faith. Other than Israel, no country has as many Biblical sites and associations as Jordan: Mount Nebo, from where Moses gazed at the Promised Land; Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John baptized Jesus; Lots Cave, where Lot and his daughters sought refuge after the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah; and many more. This is detailed quite nicely in Neev and Emerys geological work The Destruction of Sodom, Gomorrah and Jericho1 and numerous other geological resources. The Roman/Byzantine Zoar is in the same vicinity, just south of where the Wadi Mujib/Arnon empties into the Dead Sea. a man can traverse five miles. Whence does he adduce this? The countries of Syria and Philistia, as well as your other neighbors, hate you and make insulting remarks. The world of the Bible is knowable. Here is your ticket to join us as we discover more and more about the biblical world and its people. Zoar, Sodom and Gomor rah in t hat order from sout h to north. I will go with Him on that. Isaiah 1:10. The difficulty with Merrills chronological argument is his bias towards the old Usher and related chronologies. Im new to this debate, but has anyone seen the Bunch et al article (2021; doi.org/10.1038/s41598-021-97778-3) that performs a detailed analysis of the geological evidence surrounding Tall el-Hamman and concludes that this area was likely destroyed by mid-air explosion of large meteorite, larger the Tunguska, Russia event in 1908. 18 And Lot said to them, "Oh, no, my lords; 19 your servant has found favor with you, and you have shown me great kindness in saving my life; but I cannot flee to the hills, for fear the disaster will overtake me and I die. Wise to say out of the cities, I would say. 1 Answer. Director of the School of Archaeology, Veritas International University. 23]: "The sun rose over the earth, when Lot entered into Zoar"; and R. Hanina said: "I saw the distance between Sodom and Zoar, and found it to be five miles." From the Arnon mouth to Tall-Hammam, where he wants to place Sodom, is still over 40 miles. I have no doubt well find additional cities as the Israelis, Jordanians, Syrians and Palestinians continue to drain the Jordan for all its worth. night in the public square. 3 Yet he strongly urged them, so they I believe Dr. Collins is right on this one. Connect and share knowledge within a single location that is structured and easy to search. both for the fruits it bore and the riches of its cities, although it Four highly acclaimed books, published in conjunction with the Smithsonian Institution: Aspects of Monotheism, Feminist Approaches to the Bible, The Rise of Ancient Israel and The Search for Jesus. Like come on man! Cell: 9704424254 These infamous cities, together with Zoar (Bela), Admah and Zeboiim, consti-tuted the "Cities of the Plain" mentioned in Genesis 14; 18: 16-19:30. The biblical geography alone as described in Genesis 13 should give enough credence to believe that Sodom may very well be located on the northern end of the Dead Sea and not the southeastern end. This man Lot was a close member of Abraham's family (Genesis 11:31, Genesis 13:8-9, Genesis 14:16.) When Abraham and the two angels entered the city, the men of Sodom desired to have sex with the two angels (Genesis 19:4-5). 56 Jerusalem, you were so arrogant that you sneered at Sodom. Recommended further reading with myriads of evidences against Tall el-Hammam being Sodom: G. M. Grenas detailed review for The Kikkar Dialogues (Research & Discovery Series) (Volume 2) on LMLK: A Royal Blog for all matters belonging to the King, a king, &/or kings (05/25/14). Browse other questions tagged, Start here for a quick overview of the site, Detailed answers to any questions you might have, Discuss the workings and policies of this site. Furthermore, radio-carbon dating isnt the only method we use to date things back beyond lets say 50,000 years. Heres what we have to understand about using science to back up the Bible. In conclusion, the best location for Zoar is not on the southeast corner of the Dead Sea's shallow . The Late Bronze Gap, observed by many archaeologists working in the Jordan Valley can be explained by the destruction event as described in the Bible. To reference the OP though, what would be interesting to consider is this: The destruction of the cities of the plain would have been BIG NEWS of the day. Combine a one-year tablet and print subscription to BAR with membership in the BAS Library to start your journey into the ancient past today! Since Abraham . *Q&C: Geographically Puzzled. I quote the following from the article: Collins locates Zoar near the Arnon River (Collins 2020; cf. What was the distance between canaan and sodom and gomarrah? Isaiah 15:5 My heart cries out for Moab! Lot chose the land of the plain of Jordan, near Sodom and Gomorrah, because of the rich pastureland there. I do appreciate those who have substantive things to say. Read responses by scholars Bill Schlegel and Todd Bolen regarding the location of Sodom. It was a sad ending for Lot, who started out so wealthy he needed to separate his flocks from Abraham, and ended up living in a cave, raped by his own daughters. Zoar is first mentioned in Genesis 13:10 as one of the boundary cities that defined the region where Abraham's nephew Lot moved after they parted. Why was the nose gear of Concorde located so far aft? passage [Gen. 19:15]: And as the morning dawn arose, the angels urged 8 years of Archaeology Odyssey online, exploring the ancient roots of the Western world in a scholarly and entertaining way, The New Encyclopedia of Archaeological Excavations in the Holy Land. Tag: map of Sodom Gomorrah Zoar BSF Study Questions Genesis Lesson 16, Day 5: Genesis 19:15-38. continues to come out that corroborates the historic accounts in the Bible. ), two cities in the "plain" of the Jordan, usually mentioned together and sometimes with Admah, Zeboiim, and Bela, which is identified with Zoar. Maybe youll decide to become an atheist in the end. Its exactly where its supposed to be, including being virtually due east of Hebron on the map! Ezekiel 16:52-58 MSG;NLT;WYC;CEV;CJB ? The details of the Genesis story emphasize the proximity of Zoar to Sodom (Gen. 19:17, 25, 28). Genesis 10:19 The border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as you go toward Gerar, to Gaza; as you go toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, and Zeboiim, to Lasha.. Genesis 13:10 Lot lifted up his eyes, and saw all the plain of the Jordan, that it was well-watered everywhere, before Yahweh destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, like the garden of Yahweh, like the land of Egypt, as you go to Zoar. 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