Most of them look like 1s or 2s. Will we remember the 2010s for Curry or LeBron? Not many changes to make. "Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark. Traffic 60. And that's the Simmons Pyramid, right? Depeche Mode-Level 2 The Hollies Journey - 1 Al Green This might be the most controversial placement. Rod Stewart And in each role the actor shines with tools he says hes gained from poetry, his family, and yes, even clown class. "Bill G., Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid Author Bosco Tung About 96 of the Greatest Basketball players of all time, as selected by Bill Simmons in The Book of Basketball in 2010. Why was the last minute of Game 6 so emotional? "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. bill simmons hall of fame pyramid updated Posted by On August 15, 2020 0 romanian gas mask KG had a few years post-2010, but nothing that would've moved him up the ladder so to speak.Personally, I'd have KG in the middle of that group. "(You Can) Depend On Me" The Temptations, on Saturday, 03/9/2013 @ 22:25pm. When is this pyramid gonna get updated with the class of 2017??? Laura Nyro: Influenced Billy Joel. The most obvious one to me is Metallica, who are no brainers for level 4 at least, and could possibly mount a case (admittedly a weak one) for level 5. "Give Me Just Another Day" Young Jeezy (as the basis for his song, "Mr 17.5"), Schoolboy Q, Wade Waters, Christina Milian, Rick Ross, Marco Polo feat. Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. 3,2,1 is pretty much a mess. Clyde McPhatter: 8/10 He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. So really Bill breaks it all down with The Ringers Joe House. 4 has a few ringers.. IMO obviously. I don't have a problem with ranking KD over those guys. Most weird inductee? "Darling Dear" The Jackson Five. 137. ABBA: 7/10 Most loudest inductee (outside the Metal genre)? Whitney Houston-Level 2 I don't have a good reason to not have Westbrook here. Posted by Jack on Thursday, 12/18/2014 @ 15:01pm. The Rolling Stones Clyde Drexler. Chuck Berry. You hate the way he plays. The Hobbit All I ask is that you don't put Bon Jovi or Journey in last place. 8/10 = No Brainers New York: ESPN Books. "How many of YOUR favorites can boast of a list that LONG ???" Proper evaluation of influence can certainly be biased by opinion; but overall it is rather easy to research to see historically the impact an artist had by tracking musicians that copied them, or directly cite them as major influences. Posted by Mike on Thursday, 05/28/2020 @ 12:15pm, Posted by Frank on Friday, 04/9/2021 @ 04:03am, Cleveland.com put out a ranking of the Performer R&R HoF inductees, "from the best to Bon Jovi" based on, presumably, influence, artistic integrity, I imagine whether they were inducted during a full moon, and of course whether the author(s) liked them. Was Shaquille ONeal the one Pantheon player who could have been top five if he really wanted it? I forgot to factor influence. Most weird inductee? 25. The ultimate example of a band that had lots of hits but did nothing to develop rock 'n roll (Jackson Browne, John Mellencamp, Buffalo Springfield, Percy Sledge, Laura Nyro, Donovan, The Lovin' Spoonful, George Harrison, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, The Pretenders, Neil Diamond, and Randy Newman are all runners-up for the title of least qualified inductee) 1. 1994 Willie Dixon After reading your comment, here's how I would fix the pyramid: Yes, they're called idiots (just like the ~2% that didn't vote for Cobb, ~5% of voters that didn't vote for Ruth and Wagner, ~9% of voters that didn't vote for Mathewson and ~16% of voters that didn't vote for Johnson, or the idiots that took three years to vote in DiMaggio). -the Four Seasons, Black Sabbath, Queen, AC/DC Fats Domino comes off as a classy and humble man in every interview and film I've seen of him. He wound up avoiding being lumped in to any Rock and Roll labeling likely because he was being marketed to a wider and more mature audience than the industry was marketing towards for the acts that got lumped into the early Rock and Roll label. Elvis Costello & The Attractions: 9/10 Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? Foo Fighters: 8/10 The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of ALL TIME. 162. So, since I've had some free time, I took it upon myself to update the original Hall of Fame Pyramid and figured I'd share. Was the Harden trade the NBAs biggest what if? ever? Lastly, I would move Big Joe Turner to the top of the first level or the bottom of the second level. Miles Davis "Ooo Baby Baby" Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz Kawhi's been great for three seasons. 200. LEVEL 3 ?? Of course, wherever they go, Black Sabbath still has to be above them. The Velvet Underground: 10/10 Ricky Nelson: 9/10 "What's So Good About Goodbye" Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic 2014 The Police David Bowie No, I just want to see on anyone's opinion on the Hall's inductees. And it would be hard to fit both of them in level 5. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 05/11/2013 @ 22:12pm, Rolling Stones below zeppelin and the beach Boys? "You're So Fine and Sweet" - The Undertakers. Nine Inch Nails-4, Posted by Plebian on Monday, 03/2/2020 @ 02:11am, what i think the 2020 inductees should be in: Several, though I'll use Bill Haley & the Comets, since they're the first in line here, as I see it. Is Curry STILL underrated? You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years. 136. Steve Nash, 41. Dire Straits GFW-It's simply that he was a first ballot inductee and yet looking over his discography it's quite underwhelming. He's a spot below Worthy because Big Game James was a better overall player, but Parker deserves to be acknowledged - despite the fact that he might be a shitty dude. The Stooges: 10/10 Jackson Browne: 7/10 174. 159. -Hard to say. a lot of good years for inductions. Roxy Music Thank you. Most civilized inductee? MORE PROOF !!! Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. 196. Most loudest inductee (outside the Metal genre)? Is there anyone not in the Hall who could be a 4? Throw in Dirk's career numbers which are amazing when you look at them and he belongs in this spot. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . Posted by Follower on Sunday, 01/20/2019 @ 15:23pm, Well, it's no longer multiples of twelve and hasn't been since the first year. B. Come on guys, let's put MJ in Level 5. 5. Sam Cooke: 10/10 The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER The NBA according to The Sports Guynow updated with fresh takes on LeBron, the Celtics, and more! 32. Steve Miller - 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 12/22/2015 @ 17:32pm. Note: Emails will not be visible or used in any way, but are required. Eurythmics: 7/10 I agree Trent and the gang have proven to be one of the staples in not just 90s rock, but music in general. Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 02/9/2016 @ 17:04pm, Posted by Classic Rock on Friday, 04/22/2016 @ 20:34pm. "Happy Landing" - The Temptations. The Supremes Very good insight expect Dolly should be Level 2 mostly because she's one of the most important women in popular music as a whole. 34. Sister Rosetta Tharpe doesn't count because she's an Early Influence inductee which was not taken into account on this pyramid. I would also move Aretha Franklin, Little Richard & Bob Marley up to 5 as well. 7/10 = Solid Picks Posted by Follower on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:52pm, Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:56pm, Yeah Phillip, you're right. 4. I love Elton John, but he does not deserve to be ranked higher than Buddy Holly & the Crickets, Black Sabbath, Bo Diddley, Fats Domino, Little Richard, The Byrds, The Doors, and others who are more innovative and influential. Nine Inch Nails (Level 2) The Paul Butterfield Blues Band 1987 Songs originally recorded by THE MIRACLES later covered by other artists. Lincoln 1. Parker had a 12 year run where he was never the best point guard in the league, but he might've been the most important. Tupac - 3 Most quiet inductee? All The Jurassic Park films Elvis Presley Bosh deserves to be included. Lionel Richie: 6/10 "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid: Give Major Weakness of the top 10 NBA All Time. 218. 201. Frankie Lymon: Influenced Stevie Wonder, Jackson 5, Beach Boys, and The Miracles. Register for this free event . 21. Favorite induction year? 6. Established in 1957 by the Amateur Softball Association (ASA), the National Softball Hall of Fame and Museum is a permanent shrine to the men and women who played the game so well. Jay-Z -Level 3 -I've heard stories that James Brown was a ballbuster. I suppose you could make a case for T. Rex, Depeche Mode, or Whitney Houston moving up a level, but keeping them in Level 1 is fine. 221. Rating Numbers: 62. Nine Inch Nails-Level 2 Nicest: I'd like to think Buddy Holly would get this one, if he were still alive. As a link between boogie-woogie, jump blues, and rhythm & blues, he is a highly important name and should not be ranked lower than less relevant names like Buffalo Springfield, The (Young) Rascals, Jackson Browne, The Righteous Brothers, and Gene Pitney. Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 12/9/2013 @ 00:01am, Might be interesting to some here: Somebody else played their brand of rock and roll around their time who was better. Joan Baez - 1 Connie Hawkins, 99. N.W.A: Level 2 (tough call, but Public Enemy is at the lowest part of 3, and they're about even, though PE had longer success) Lynyrd Skynyrd The Paul Butterfield Blues Band: 3/10 RHCP: 9/10 223. Los Lobos on Sunday, 03/10/2013 @ 20:26pm, 1. Oops. 2002 The Everly Brothers Nina Simone: 9/10 Axl Rose managed to alienate the rest of GNR when the success went to his head and forced them to sign over the rights to the band name. "We've Come Too Far To End It Now"-The Escorts Yes Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. Albert King (lower 3rd) The Hollies: 3/10 98. The Meters - 1, Posted by Tyler on Friday, 10/6/2017 @ 12:50pm, The pyramid hasnt been updated with last years inductees, but here is my take on 2018: I was reviewing a post which I had written some time ago. how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro You may wonder why I continue posting on FRL after admitting to my disenchanted with most rock music. Demote. " Most nicest inductee? I also searched Twitter and Google to find updates before then. The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason. I would also move Talking Heads up to the 4th tier. 147. Except perhaps Bon Jovi, which I would put in the sub-basement if it were within my power to do so. The Four Tops If you consider what the Velvet Underground did to not be metal, then the Velvets. 5)Elvis Costello-Alison, and I cannot name another song. Pearl Jam Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 Frank Zappa The Heat had three Pyramid guys including a Level 5 and Level 4 guy in their primes. The former MVP has adapted and evolved to become an excellent conductor of Phillys offense. Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 He followed that up with 6 more solid seasons including 2 more All-NBA teams and 3 more All-Star appearances. Granted, I still enjoy most of the artists I've advocated during my heyday on FRL, but I simply have no time for music that overemphasizes lyrics at the expense of musicianship and technical ability. Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. Nirvana Nina Simone 178. 158. A lot of the acts in Level 1 and 2 should be upgraded too. Level 1: Traffic: 7/10 There needs to be slightly more room in the 5 space, cause Bowie is 100% a 5. I can forgive MJ being ranked above the King (though I disagree), but Madge over the Fab Four? Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:34am, In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. Tracy McGrady, 89. I would like to do the # ratings of performers of every class, for this I'll be giving them a number between 0 -10 out of 10 based on influence & innovation on popular music. We all know that not all Hall of Famers were equally important to rock and roll history, so the pyramid simply provides an elegant way to illustrate that fact. Albert King: 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 20:53pm. So that doesn't really mean anything. 73. 203. Either you have the music and the accomplishments or you don't. 47. Joni Mitchell Here are the questions: 1)Led Zeppelin-demote to the 4th tier. -Philip 157. or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Miles Davis: 9/10 Level 4: Wilt, 6. 91. The first change I would make to this pyramid: Michael Jackson to Level 5, perhaps replacing Jimi Hendrix. Personally, I think they're overvalued in the rankings and undervalued on the pyramid. On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? 78. 15. I am williams by name. Join us for a Stathead virtual panel to kick off the 2022-23 NBA Season on October 12 at 7pm ET. The Miracles should be at Level 4. 14. I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. 2/10 = Failure Reserved for acts who are definitely Hall of Famers, but don't quite possess a Level 3 rsum for one or more of the following reasons: Jerry West, 9. Well, nice as that was, the moment is passed, and the Ramones are virtually irrelevant to the contemporary musical landscape. James Brown. How Far Can This Version of James Harden Take the Sixers? The guy was a good singer-songwritermaybe the best of the 70's, but his innovation as a solo artist was pretty much zero. Metallica Shrewd businessman, but civilized. Rush He was one of the first rock and rollers to incorporate politics and social issues and he mostly did that during his solo career. "Happy Landing" - The Temptations. . "Who's Loving You" The Jackson 5, En Vogue, Terence Trent D'Arby, Brenda Holloway, The Supremes, The Temptations, Honey Cone, Stevie B., Archie Bell & the Drells, Nikka Costa. Bon Jovi- 1 Bill Haley (and His Comets) He's going to jump 30-40 spots regardless. "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. Lionel Richie (Level 1) I'd rather they be a 3, but a lot of those 3s are untouchable. you like simmons a lot. -All nominated artists must be used in the pyramid Cat Stevens 2019 58. I think he deserves the rank. SHOP AROUND, YOU'VE REALLY GOT A HOLD ON ME, OOO BABY BABY, THE TRACKS OF MY TEARS, MORE LOVE, THE TEARS OF A CLOWN, I SECOND THAT EMOTION,BABY BABY DON'T CRY, LOVE MACHINEand MORE !! Creedence Clearwater Revival 26. Santana: 8/10 Gladys Knight and the Pips Simmons led . My favorite inductees: Elton John, Billy Joel, Rush, Sam Cooke, Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Chuck Berry, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Eagles, Crosby, Stills, & Nash, Neil Young, Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Doors and several others. ", Posted by Dezmond on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 22:04pm, Desmond, Paul Simon 14. John Lee Hooker: 8/10 Posted by Tommy Wimmer on Monday, 09.24.18 @ 01:42am It is nice to see that you can be objective about The Byrds importance although you admit to not being a fan, but I think your dislike for Neil is getting in the way of your objectivity. 142. Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? When you look at it this way, it's not an especially inspired class, is it? I like them for what they were, and not the over-hyped myth. The most "most mean" is on how the artist's relation to people. Radiohead were around then. Simmons, Bill. N.W.A His influence and impact cannot be overstated, and I have the sources to back up my claims. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 03:26am. Posted by Classic Rock on Thursday, 07/28/2016 @ 20:05pm, The Beatles 5 Bailey Howell, 104. Good pyramid. 3. 219. DarinRG, if you've ever seen "An Evening With Kevin Smith" where he describes his trip to Prince's home, it's epic. I still listen to modern rock/indie radio at times, but for the most part, I start losing sustained interest around 1998 or '9. If you would like, I can document is influence on a great many artists. Honestly, when you're talking about those three, any order you put 'em in could be justified. NWA - 3 (=Public Enemy) Martha and the Vandellas Please note that joining is free of charge you don't pay any dine to become member and to contact us here is our mobile number +13092795479 and also here is our directly email iluminatihood123@gmail.com join one join all. Pete Maravich, 77. 86. Dick Clark would be a good call here too. 61. I kept the same ratio. They should be upgraded too. The Byrds The Kinks: 10/10 Stevie Nicks Oh found NIN. 103. 49. "After All" The Supremes, The Marvelettes. Lyrics to me are merely a supplement to music. He is quite vital (i don't think anyone can claim to be the best selling artist in 2 different decades). Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:47am. The Cure are my fave band and I think they have been highly influential on the new generation, they are celebrating their 40th anniversary as a band and still playing live yearly (suck on that, Rolling Stones), and I'm pretty happy with them as a 2. Elton John: 10/10 "From Head to Toe" Elvis Costello, Chris Clark ), Dolly Parton, Boyz II Men, Human Nature, among many others The Shirelles: 9/10 The Police: 9/10 None of them were saints though. Traffic: 7/10 Santana, unless you're arguing against the Mexican roots. Part 2 coming soon! Paul Pierce, 53. Bob Dylan. 1. In my opinion, this is quite a great insight on how GOAT list should go. Star Offline Posts: 2664 Respect: 0. Paul McCartney: 8/10 Comments. "I Like It Like That" (Miracles song)- Bobby Vee, Mitch Ryder & the Detroit Wheels. Level 5 Subscribe: Apple Podcasts / Art19 / Spotify / Google Podcasts. I'm sure that you all accept that INFLUENCE is one of the most important factors in Musical Greatness. Jerry Lee Lewis and The Everly Brothers should both go up in their rankings. Michael Jackson: 10/10 214. Depeche Mode: 8/10 Stevie Wonder: 10/10 2020 Both haven't been to the Finals. These are basically "L3" guys, only there's something just inherently "greater" about them. 177. Jerry Lee Lewis Earlier this month, he added another distinction to his rsum as he was inducted into the Army ROTC Hall of Fame as part of the 24-member Class of 2021.. Oh Wait, those dimwhits on the election committee have overlooked them again! The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 143. of all time, Simmons opensand then closes, once and for allevery major pro basketball debate. Kevin Johnson, 106. Fats Domino. Tupac - 3 Posted by Follower on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 20:33pm. I actually think that every act up there is almost exactly where they should be. U2 Hank Ballard (and the Midnighters) Level 1: Putting him ahead of bands like The Byrds, The Doors, Black Sabbath and most of the other bands on the 3rd tier is ridiculous. That's at least 70+ years of music I'm combing through and constantly digging up gems. 2013 164. Yes, it's personal. Hey, Zach, have you looked at the comment that I posted? Level 4 Simmons believes that Nolan Ryan was a Tier 4 Baseball HoFer, while acknowledging that several people wouldn't put Nolan Ryan in the Hall at all. I do think the pyramid needs serious changes cause gaye, prince, franklin, jackson, bowie, and maybe tupac have overtaken taken some of the 5 in recent years in many ways. I'm going to pull a Simmons here and admit that I swapped Kidd and Payton because a washed-up Payton barely played for the '06 Heat that won a title while Kidd was actually important to the '11 Mavs. Duran Duran (Level 1 or 2) Big Joe Turner: 9/10 The Who: 10/10 Ritchie Valens: 7/10 5. Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Posted by Plebeian on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 16:15pm, Posted by Chris on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 16:21pm. The Cars: 7/10 Now I'm remembering the time I went to the Country Hall of Fame and they had an exhibit on Ray Charles. Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. Dave Bing, 93. Tina Turner-Level 1 64. Rating Numbers: Aretha Franklin: 10/10 For now, he just misses the cut. "A Fork in the Road " Rebbie Jackson Stevie Wonder. Bon Jovi - 1 If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. Were they just dominant at times? 9/10 = All Time Greats LEVEL 4 ? Demote. I guess SONGWRITING , PRODUCING, and INFLUENCE are considered more IMPORTANT than flashy choreography,flashy clothes,and Pop success!! Roy Orbison: 10/10 The Little Mermaid 13. Underrated, or too low: John Mellencamp, Mamas+Papas, Temptations, Frank Zappa, The Rascals, The Hollies, Posted by Bill on Tuesday, 08/19/2014 @ 19:29pm. "Got A Job" The Marcels Their experimentation? Name Affiliation Year. Skip to secondary content. 2. Powered by SMF | The ones who should move up? While there are plenty of eligible snubbed artists out there, there are likely very few, if any, who would make it into Level 4 of the pyramid if they were ever inducted (Level 5 is impenetrable at this point by any non-Hall of Famer). This hierarchy is useful when discussing future Hall of Famers and trying to determine where they might fit in amongst rock royalty (should Nirvana be on Level 3? Percy Sledge: 2/10 Posted by Gary on Friday, 01/4/2019 @ 18:23pm. 10. "Come On Do The Jerk" The Righteous Brothers , The T-Bones Sandwiching him in with the other me-first scorers from other generations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography U2: 10/10 Deep Purple- 4 Rosetta was put in as an Early Influence, but I get what you mean; man, they really let some of these sections go to waste! Jack Twyman, 107. DEFINITELY !! Their overwhelming commercial success then? According to the picture, that's where Level 5 is. As far as the 2013 inductees are concerned and their tier placement is concerned: But whats the legacy of the blockbuster album? 2016 3. Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 63. Bob Dylan, Ray Charles, Jimi Hendrix, Little Richard, James Brown, Muddy Waters and Robert Johnson Back To The Future Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? Joan Baez: 6/10 2004 The charter of the Pyramid states no MVP can drop below Level 3 unless it's for a good reason. 65. The Small Faces: 6/10 204. Tupac David Bowie, Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa, Beastie Boys, Patti Smith, Joni Mitchell, Black Sabbath and The Stooges Young Frankenstein Loudest other than metal: The Kinks Patrick Ewing. The Beatles should be level 0, abd Poison moves up to level 5. As for the newer inductees, 210. Bob Lanier, 105. De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. Joan Baez Since then, he has mentioned in episodes of his podcast numerous changes that he has made to this list. Chris Mullin, 94. A Fish Called Wanda Chris Paul [from Level 1, below Carter]. Rod Stewart: 8/10 "Oh Be My Love"- Barbara Lewis, The Supremes, Barbara McNair. But I hope that someday Plastic People of the Universe will get in. Part of the best shooting backcourt of all-time and a key part in the Warriors dynasty. 9. I know Giannis, Harden, and Russ won those MVPs, but KD was the best player on the best team and snatched the crown from LeBron in 2017 and 2018 when he outplayed him in both those series. Del Shannon Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? 206. "If You Can Want" The Dirtbombs, Barbara McNair, Chazz Dixon. And to me, the John Stockton vs. Chris Paul debate would be the most important chapter. Were Shaq and Kobe always destined to turn on each other? I'd probably have The Moody Blues in Level 2 or 3, since they're name checked as the pioneers of art rock and prog rock. Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:13pm, ** THE MIRACLESand why they SHOULD be Level 4:** What about Public Enemy?). Except on Neil Young, of course. Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 -Civilized? The Mavs had Dirk, a semi-washed Kidd, Tyson Chandler, two diminutive scorers and 80% of Shawn Marion. And how in the hell did Radiohead get on level 4? The best of the best. The Go-Go's-Level 1 Bill G., Thanks very much for your kind words , Nick !! Talented as hell, but weird as hell. 1991 I can nitpick about some of the placements, but a solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is underselling Curry. And I agree on John Lennon (or any Beatle) as a solo artist. Where does his beard rank among the NBAs greatest facial hairstyles ever? "Determination" The Contours. The only artist from the last two years that I'd move up would be Nine Inch Nails. Quietest: Musically, James Taylor. The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 Public Enemy (Level 4) Donna Summer I'm working on a list of my least favorite artists and will include commentary for each choice. Just being a major influence on Bob Dylan alone, and really almost the entirety of folk-rock should at the very least put her midway up, probably higher, imho. The architect of the Rock Hall, I.M. HARDLY !! Regarding your throughts on the 2014 Nominees, I would say that the only group that I woundn't celebrate getting into the Hall would be NWA. AP Player of the Year Award; John R. Wooden Award; Naismith Men's College Player . Depeche Mode (Level 2) Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers Braveheart ELO - 1 102. I also feel EXACTLY the same about John Lennon. * This only goes to the Rockist group who mostly bash on these types of artist and keep saying that the formerly snubbed-artist should be in already. If you want to argue he was a shitty teammate, fine, but on talent and resume, he belongs in the Top 50. Deep Purple Her solo career wasn't any more impactful than any of the other artists on Level 1. Nine Inch Nails The Book of Basketball - Bill Simmons 2010-12-07 . Yeah, the Pyramid's bias toward 60s musicians is palpable. Exactly, Posted by Matthew on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 12:13pm. 14. 24. 145. Thank you. Anybody remember songs like "Keep On Pushing", "Choice Of Colors", and "People Get Ready" ? There have been 9 completed seasons since then, so I added 14 new players for a total of 110. Nina Simone Sure, they influenced Green Day and some others. Level 4 Ray Charles. From what I can gather, they were celebrated because they never quite made it, and because, as is wont to happen, their creative limitations were reinterpreted as a profound artistic statement. LaVern Baker The guy's impact has been very strongly compared to Picasso i really have a hard time seeing him not being capable of being a 5 even if he's blacklisted by the hall for years. Robert Parish, 67. I could have sworn it was the other way around. Ground floor of The Pyramid. The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 Bon Jovi (while not a critical favorite, the band is still selling well into the new 10's) Depeche Mode (Level 2) Moody Blues - 2 Since this hasn't been updated since 2019, where do you think the 2020 and 2021 inductees rank in the Rock Hall pyramid? Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. Adande. 213. The Van Halen brothers managed to get rid of both their main lead singers. Black Sabbath and Queen again. Prince, The Beatles, James Brown, Public Enemy, Marvin Gaye, The Temptations, The Rolling Stones, Beastie Boys, Louis Jordan, Michael Jackson, Little Richard, Sly & the Family Stone, Frank Zappa, Stevie Wonder, Parliament-Funkadelic, Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Buddy Holly, The Miracles, The Beach Boys, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Booker T. & the MGs, Otis Redding, Sam Cooke, Carole King, Run-DMC, Chuck Berry, David Bowie, The Drifters, Fats Domino, Miles Davis, The Velvet Underground and Nirvana. Talking Heads: 9/10 The Ramones are a case in point. Radiohead have been called the last important rock band by tons of people. Little Richard: 10/10 My mistake, I met question 9 and "most nicest", not 7 and "most mean". 12. 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